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The Youth Conservation Corps: Has Its Time Arrived?

November 19, 2009
Updated  July 4, 2016

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Little is being done to address the job plight of younger workers (Millennials) in Canada and the United States. Yet they have a lifetime ahead of them in the labor market and will be expected to support the huge numbers of Baby Boomers and seniors in their retirement years. Take the time to both read this post and share it with friends. There are lessons from 80 years ago from which society–and the economy–would benefit greatly.

Your correspondent is an unabashed admirer of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Yes, he had his faults and flaws, but he was an incredible visionary who could also quickly put into action new initiatives for the benefit of America. One such initiative, the focus of this post, was the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC).

The CCC is referred to in biographies on FDR. However, the PBS documentary on the CCC, American Experience, provides a much fuller appreciation of the genius of FDR. The documentary is fascinating to watch because it was based largely on interviews with men who had worked with the CCC when they were teenagers. A few quotations from these men are included below to hear it in their own words. This is a remarkable story, and one that has applications to the plight facing young people in today’s tough economy and labor market.

In conjunction with this post is a brief mention of a second American Experience documentary that complements the CCC: “Black Blizzards,” a terrifying occurrence during the Dust Bowl of the Dirty Thirties.When President Roosevelt took office in March 1933 he faced a country in dire straits with an official unemployment rate of 25%.

FDR was deeply aware of the ticking time bomb that underlay the masses of unemployed men, many of whom were unable to feed their families. When famed economist John Maynard Keynes was once asked if he’d ever seen a situation as desperate as The Great Depression, he replied: “Yes, it was called The Dark Ages, and it lasted for 400 years.”

President Roosevelt knew that something had to be done quickly to prevent social unrest and to also produce something tangible for America’s future. As a conservationist, he conceived the idea of a corps of American men who would address the country’s decades-long abuse of the environment, while simultaneously providing employment. The CCC would be America’s fastest and most competently executed mobilization of citizens in its history. As FDR biographer Jonathan Alter put it: “The lessons for today could hardly be fresher.”
ccc_crew_at_cuyamaca_rancho_hewing_slabs_of_sugar_pine_for_picnic_table_tops_1934.jpgConceived in early 1932, FDR unveiled his idea to Congress on March 21. Both friends and foes argued that what he proposed was not possible on logistical grounds. Calling it Roosevelt’s “Tree Army” (because it was run by the U.S. Army), many compared FDR to Italy’s Fascist dictator Mussolini, while others referred to the Corps as “Storm Troopers.” However, FDR barrelled ahead believing in his vision and his personal capabilities to make this new program a success.

The CCC was launched in 1933. It should be noted that it was just one of several jobs programs initiated by FDR during The Great Depression.By the summer of 1933, just three months after being launched, a quarter of a million men were part of the CCC. The requirements to be part of the CCC included: U.S. citizen, male, under age 25, unemployed and willing to spend six months with the CCC earning a dollar a day. Organized labor balked at the daily wage, so FDR in typical strategic fashion appointed a union person to head up the program.

Each state was part of the CCC and had a quota in the number of work camps, where each one had 200 men. African Americans were part of that quota, reflecting the 10% of the country’s population. However, in keeping with the prevalent attitudes their camps were segregated.

FDR: “Give me your help, not to win votes alone, but to win in this crusade to restore America to its own people.”

In addition to the massive number of unemployed Americans, the situation in the heartland of the United States was becoming desperate. Early settlers to the Southern Plains saw the land as the Garden of Eden, where crops were bountiful. The attitude was to go forth and challenge the land, and during World War I and the 1920s that’s just what the settlers did. Millions of acres of grasslands were ploughed under as the federal government pushed for more crops to be planted to feed the rapidly growing urban populations. In 1931, for example, a record was set for wheat harvest. Texan Melt White explains what took place in blunt terms: “They abused the land…they raped it; they got everything out of it they could.”black_blizzard_youtube_2.pngThen in the summer of 1931 the rain stopped. No one was prepared for what was to come. Winds blew constantly, raising massive “Black Blizzards” which transported the extremely fine dust particles as far away as the Eastern Seaboard. The dust accumulated to such heights as to barricade the doors of houses. People coughed up black goo. What took 1,000 years to build up one inch of topsoil was scoured away in days. A visiting journalist labeled this horror “The Dust Bowl.”

Between 1932 and 1933, the number of dust storms increased from 14 to 38. Bizarrely, farmers kept ploughing their land, worsening the problem. By 1934 the number of storms had increased further. The incoming clouds had different colors, depending on from which state they originated. Farmers resisted help from Washington because they believed that it was their responsibility to provide for their families. However, in 1934 the government began destroying cattle since they were worthless. As one old-timer put it, the Southern Plains began to resemble the Sahara Desert.The Civilian Conservation Corps was therefore launched at one of the most critical times in America’s history, and as noted earlier, has never since been replicated for its effectiveness and positive impact. Let’s now hear from those men who were part of the CCC.

Clifford Hammond, who was raised on a farm, joined the CCC in 1934 at age 18. For him, life was about chores and eating cornbread at every meal. His father knew nothing about crop rotation, fertilization or soil erosion. One of Hammond’s teachers tried to teach modern farming practices, but was ignored by the farmers in the community. As Hammond put it: “If it hadn’t been for Roosevelt in establishing the CCC, I don’t know what a lot of us young guys would have done. I don’t know what my next step would have been.”Forest_fire_training_at_Skagit_CCC_camp,_Mt._Baker_National_Forest,_Washington_(3226035017).jpgWhat appealed to Hammond was having two pairs of shoes and three “squares” a day. Plus you only worked six hours, in contrast to the 12 hour days he’d been used to on the farm. He also learned how to live and work with others who were different from himself. He admitted that in growing up in Illinois he was used to playing only with White boys and girls. By working with people from other racial groups in the CCC he came to understand that they were “…just like anybody else.”

Harley Jolley joined the CCC as a teenage in 1937. He recalled “…playing in gullies two stories high. That was my playground….all that erosion and that much good land gone. The soil erosion we were losing annually was enough to load a series of boxcars seven times around the earth.”

Jolley recalled their hard work. Returning to their barracks in late afternoon, they’d eat supper and then engage in courses in the evenings. As he put it: “I became much sounder in body, built good legs, that territory as well. And I wound up a fairly good, healthy young teenager.”

It was the evening courses that helped these young men later in life. Many were illiterate, and as Jolley stated: “FDR said ‘they will be taught to read and write. Nobody, no boy will leave our camps illiterate.’” Courses included electrical and plumbing, including typing classes. Vincente Ximenes, born in Texas, joined the CCC in 1938 at age 19. He remembered the soil as being totally depleted, with cattle being rounded up and slaughtered because there was no market for meat. And he recalled clearly the growing anger among people with the government: “The seeds were there. I mean, the people were there who were angry enough to do it. I would say that FDR is the one that saved this country, you know, from having a revolt.”

Ximenes echoed Hammond’s comment about racism being an issue with some of the CCC workers, but he learned the value of human rights: “It stayed with me the rest of my life.”ccc.crew.2.285.jpgHouston Pritchett moved to Detroit in 1929 and joined the CCC in 1939. One of his main memories was the soup kitchen and having to eat all their meals there: “You’d line up, you’d go there and just sit down and you’d eat.” For him, “Roosevelt was the best thing that ever happened. He didn’t only do something for the poor black man, he did something for the poor white man, too….They were teaching us to work, and we learned something.”

FDR: “First, we are giving opportunity of employment for a quarter of a million of the unemployed, especially the young men who have dependents. Let them go into forestry and flood prevention work….in creating the Civilian Conservation Corps, we are killing two birds with one stone. We are clearly enhancing he value of our natural resources. And, at the same time, we are relieving an insatiable amount of actual distress.”

One of the important aspects of the CCC was that $25 of the $30 monthly pay was sent to the workers’ families. These remittances were extremely important to helping distribute income during the Great Depression, and as well helped ensure that the men didn’t squander their earnings.

The CCC was responsible for building a number of well-known American sites, such as Camp David and Carlsbad Caverns, not to mention state and national parks. One major impact from their work in later years was the advent of recreation as a major industry in the U.S.

The entry of the United States into World War II was responsible for the phasing out of the CCC. The huge demand for men to enlist in the U.S. Armed Forces resulted in the program ending in July 1942. However, America now had a large contingent of men who had been part of the CCC and who were ready to serve their country. As Vincente Ximenes bluntly put it: “Without the CCC, I really don’t know what we would have done. We did not have an army prepared to go to war. And here was approximately two and a half or three million men who were prepared and had been organized to work together. I joined the Air Force in 1941, and they didn’t have to do a hell of a lot of training for me. I was prepared.”

ccc_we_can_take_it.jpgHouston Pritchett adds: “The CCC made me a man; it made me respect discipline and how to work and get along with people.” He recalled when he visited many years later the camp where he had worked. He brought along his granddaughter. “I went back up there and seen them trees, where they got them where you can’t cut them down. And my little granddaughter, she was telling them: ‘All these trees, she said her grandpa planted all the trees up there.’”

Clifford Hammond remembered meeting a woman at an event for seniors not long ago. Once they started talking, she knew exactly which CCC camp he had worked in many decades earlier. As she said to him: “You couldn’t visualize what a change you guys made.”

FDR: “I am thinking of you [CCC] as a visible token of encouragement to the whole country. Through you, the nation will graduate a fine group of strong, young men, clean-living, trained to self-discipline, and above all, willing and proud to work for the joy of working. That, my friends, must be the new spirit of the American future. And you are the vanguard of that new spirit.”

What became of these four men?

  • Harley Jolley became a professor of history
  • Vincente Ximenes built a career in government and served in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations.
  • Clifford Hammond owned and operated Cliff’s Amusement Park in Albuquerque for 50 years
  • Houston Pritchett worked for Ford for 31 years


1) What lessons can we draw from the success of the Civilian Conservation Corps?

2) Are there relevant applications to today’s economy and society?

3) To avoid what has been labeled “The Lost Generation,” what should we do to ensure that youth in all socio-economic strata across North America are able to contribute productively to their countries’ futures?

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10 Comments leave one →
  1. michael shreeve permalink
    April 11, 2011 11:53 pm

    Great story. I think we are close to a revolution of some kind. Many have no unemployment and have lost hope. We need more heroes like FDR. My dad fought fire while in the CCC as a young man. I truly believe that we may have lost WWII if it hadn’t been for the CCC.

    • April 12, 2011 12:05 am

      Michael, thanks very much for your comments. As a Canadian I am truly fascinated by some of America’s amazing presidents. FDR, Lincoln, Washington and I’m learning more about Teddy Roosevelt from two excellent books I recently read. I’m also very fond of Americans, regularly travelling through New England, not to mention one extended Amtrak trip with my wife three years ago. It is an absolute travesty what is happening to America. If you check out my other posts, you should find many that will resonate with you on leadership, the focus of my website-blog.

      And yes, you make an excellent observation about the CCC and its contribution to America’s WW II effort.

  2. June 8, 2010 10:16 pm

    Thanks very much, Rob, for your feedback.

    I hope you’re able to get hold of Mr. Pritchett.

  3. June 8, 2010 9:49 pm

    Great Blog!
    I am a historian for the state of Michigan and one of my historic sites I administer is the Michigan CCC Museum. I have been lucky enoug h to meet Mr. Houtson Pritchett in the past at CCC Reunions (unfortunately they have bee discontinued) and I am working with our local PBS station to show this episode in July at one of my sites. I hope to have Mr. Pritchett as a special guest at the event. I don’t have his contact information, but am working on reaching him.

  4. June 1, 2010 2:35 am


    Check out this website which has a great description of the CCC and a lot of comments. I wasn’t able to find any specific information on Houston Pritchett.

  5. spencer permalink
    June 1, 2010 1:39 am

    hey jim i just watched this program on ccc and i tik houston prichett is the most exhilerating person…i really would like to get in contact with him if any way possible…could you please help me?..thank you so much!
    -spencer wetmore (614-843-0544)

  6. April 20, 2010 11:27 pm

    Thanks Daniel for sharing this. Your story sounds fascinating. Although I’m Canadian, my parents were big FDR admirers. My mom (now 90) worked in Washington during WWW II, and my late dad served on two corvettes in the Canadian Navy, patrolling and escorting merchant marine vessels. Perhaps that helps explain my fascination with ships.

    I’m in the process of reading my fourth FDR biography. There are incredible leadership lessons to be learned from FDR that could be applied today.

    All the best…Jim

  7. April 20, 2010 6:09 am

    I too am an unabashed admirer of FDR. His genius won WWII – the greatest war in history.
    I have a story no historian – presidential or other – has on how he did it. I assisted in writing The American Merchant Marine at War –
    I also knew and worked with Ronald Reagan, another great American who is much misunderstood in his breaking up the USSR – I had a very personal interest in that effort – I wanted to see my grandmother and other relatives. I finally did.
    Please get in touch — The CCC had much to do with WWII = I met many CCCers in training and in service.
    Dan Horodysky – 2213 Acton St., Berkeley, CA 94703-1914
    Phone – 510-540-8472


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